In this episode of All Rise, Abdu Murray and Derek Caldwell sit down with Jacob Vazquez to discuss his new book, Sacred or Secular: The Pro-Life Case for Grounding Human Values. 

Jacob shares why the pro-life issue is deeply personal for him, how science points to the humanity of the unborn, and why the abortion debate ultimately goes beyond biology into the deeper question of what makes human beings valuable in the first place. 

The conversation also explores the image of God, secular pro-life arguments, common biblical objections, and why Christians need to think about abortion as more than a political issue.