In this episode of All Rise, Abdu Murray and Derek Caldwell respond to Abdu’s recent debate with atheist Dan Barker on purpose, meaning, morality, and ultimately whether life’s purpose is found or made.

They discuss the debate, examine some of Barker’s tactics, and answer several objections Abdu did not have time to fully address during the exchange—including questions about morality, suffering, Scripture, and whether atheism can truly ground objective purpose.

Learn about Abdu’s urgent new book, Fake ID: How AI and Identity Ideology Are Collapsing Reality—And What to Do About It (David C Cook, 2026) at https://realitycollapsebook.com/.

Top 20 Questions about Christianity ANSWERED: https://embracethetruth.org/20-questions/

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